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Ai-yah [Tuesday 2003.08.26|23:18]
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If I were married to Jessica Simpson and I had a gun, I would, in fact, shoot myself.
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From: [info]ex_jenesaisq846
2003-08-26 23:21 (UTC)

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*lol at subject*
[User Picture]From: [info]songmonk
2003-08-27 00:15 (UTC)

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What? Can't a non-Chinese-speaking American say "ai-yah" without getting funny looks? :-)
From: [info]ex_jenesaisq846
2003-08-27 08:52 (UTC)

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*suppresses giggle*
[User Picture]From: [info]carpetfish
2003-08-27 09:05 (UTC)

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Weeeeell....*grin*
[User Picture]From: [info]doooook
2003-08-27 10:59 (UTC)

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I've never seen it spelled like that though. I usually think of it as aeyah. And hell, I'm white and use the term at the poker table far too much. Of course I grew up in Hongcouver, so it is allowable and I think your San Fransiscan connection makes it legal for you to use too.

Oh yeah, and my licence plate starts out as AEYJ ... which is just far too close to aeyah.
From: [info]saragon
2003-08-27 11:04 (UTC)

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Can't a non-Chinese-speaking American say "ai-yah" without getting funny looks? :-)


The answer to this question is yes. I've said "ai-yah" without getting funny looks numerous times. In fact I only seem to have gotten funny looks when saying "ai-yah" from Chinese-speaking people. For a long time I didn't understand this because I never knew or thought of "ai-yah" as being any kind of exclusively Chinese sort of thing, but evidently that is wrong? At least that's what someone told me once (that "ai-yah" is like something their Chinese grandmother would say). It was complete news to me and, I suspect, to other non-Chinese folk.

[User Picture]From: [info]songmonk
2003-08-27 14:31 (UTC)

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Word.
From: [info]ohicouldscream
2003-08-27 04:30 (UTC)

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That show is terrible.

I give their marriage 6 months - tops.
[User Picture]From: [info]songmonk
2003-08-27 14:15 (UTC)

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When you say the show is terrible, you mean that it's terribly funny, right? :-)

Nick and Jessica have been together for so long...I really have difficulty believing that *this* Jessica has come out only after the marriage.

If this is what Nick wants...then I hope they'll both be very happy. But I don't think that either one of them has what they really want.

I just don't see how they could have stayed together this long.

Well, I can actually.

Even though Jessica expresses dissatisfaction with so many things about Nick, I think in her mind she thinks she's still married to the perfect guy. And there is a high degree of comfort level there. Seeing that she's almost dated no one else. It's not too difficult to imagine someone being in Jessica's position. (The wealth and fame aside, the type of relationship she is in and the position she is in is not that uncommon.)

For Nick though...why? I guess because she really did hold on to her virginity until they were married and he was blinded by the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

I agree, this marriage is not going to last.
From: [info]saragon
2003-08-27 14:35 (UTC)

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So if I'm following you, you're saying that there's some TV show out there which is documenting the daily life of pop singer Jessica Simpson with her husband, the two of whom recently married. And from what you've seen, the marriage isn't going to last. Partially because Jessica Simpson is difficult to live with in some way (I gather).


That all makes me kinda sad. I mean, seriously. They should at least get the cameras the hell outta there.

[User Picture]From: [info]songmonk
2003-08-27 14:50 (UTC)

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Well, it *is* kinda sad.

Not that getting the cameras out of there will do anything to improve their relationship, but your point is taken.

One thing I wonder about is how clueless Jessica is. Does she even realize that she's in a dysfunctional relationship? I think she does not. I think she thinks that this is what every couple goes through and that it would be fun -- simply fun! -- to have cameras follow them around and give the public a peek into what their lives are like!

Before the show debuted, Jessica and Nick did a bit of promotion, and the way that she was enthusiastically promoting it, I had no idea of the type of stuff we'd see on the show and the insight we'd have into what Jessica is like.

I honestly don't think she realizes how bitchy she is. This is evidenced by her behavior and some of the stuff she says. Like when she talks about how uncomfortable it is for her to go to the audition where Nick and crew are auditioning dancers for his video. She basically threw a hissy fit over the fact that the girls were dancing so close to Nick. "What wife *wouldn't* mind?" she asks. Well, one who isn't so paranoid, one who trusts her husband, and one who doesn't think that her husband is always ready to cheat on her if she turns her head.

I know I'm getting all judgemental, and I know it's not my place to say how other people should live their lives, but if she trusts Nick, why is she acting that way? (There's an answer, of course.) And if she doesn't trust him, why did she marry him? To Jessica, this is "normal". To me, it's kinda sad that that's normal to a lot of people.

Something else I noticed is that if I only saw the show (for which they had footage of in the second episode) that Nick and Jessica did, I would not know all the acrimony that went on between them behind closed doors. Just like I wouldn't realize there were any problems from what I saw when Nick and Jessica came on TRL before the show debuted. But oh there are problems.

And of course this stuff happens *all the time*. With other celebrities, and with ordinary couples. It just doesn't get shown on national television....
From: [info]saragon
2003-08-27 18:33 (UTC)

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dysfunctional relationship


Damn.. now I'm even getting curious to see this show ;-)



She basically threw a hissy fit over the fact that the girls were dancing so close to Nick. "What wife *wouldn't* mind?" she asks.


Not having seen the show I'm in no position to say. But from the way you describe it, I wonder if the cameras could be contributing to the way she's acting. "What wife *wouldn't* mind?" sounds like something you say if you know other wives are listening to you, it doesn't jibe as something someone would spontaneously say in private (though obviously I could be way wrong, that could just be the way JS is). It seems reasonable to think that the presence of cameras puts subconscious pressure on her (and him) to put on a performance or tailor their conversations to audience expectations (or what they think those audience expectations may be).


I'll make up outta thin air an example of what I have in mind. Say husband Nick says to wife Jessica "could you grab me a Coke from the fridge". In private, Jessica says "sure" and no prob. With cameras, Jessica thinks "hmm if I get this Coke I now look like a stereotypical Obedient Wife to all the girls watching, that's not good". So instead she launches into a speech about how she's not his servant and whatnot. (I could've made up a converse example to make Nick instead of Jessica look like a poser, but I'm a guy, so I didn't ;-) )


Now obviously I don't know that anything like that has happened but I wonder if there could be a similar pattern developing.


If so, reinforcing my view that they should get the cameras the hell outta there :-)

[User Picture]From: [info]songmonk
2003-08-27 18:48 (UTC)

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From having watched a fair bit of reality TV *cough*, I'd say that you're half-right.

I really don't think that bulk of what we're seeing is staged for the camera. Most of the stuff that Jessica says that makes her look bad I don't think she would do if she was thinking about being on camera. (There's some stuff that she says directly to the camera that makes her look bad. You know, those segments where a person is specifically speaking to the camera to tell about something. Like when Jessica was saying how spoiled she was growing up. She didn't use those exact words, but that's what she was telling us. :-) )

That said, I do feel that the producers of the show do manipulate the footage to make things look worse than they really are. For example, I think they splice in reaction shots that aren't actual reactions to what is being said. That is, they will have a continuous audio track (an ongoing conversation, for example), but I think the reaction shot is inserted. Because if a person is sitting there watching TV or something, they have a lot of footage of the person sitting there in the same position. But the camera angles that they have for the different people make me inclined to believe that they were filmed separately and not simultaneously -- not like they had a camera on each person at the same time during the conversation.

So yeah, I think the producers exaggerate things (like making Jessica look especially helpless or clueless or bitchy), but the footage is genuine. And it sounds bad for me to say, but I can fill in the blanks in that relationship based on what I see. The interplay between Nick and Jessica isn't manufactured. It's true that they're stringing together things in succession to make it seem like that's how it is all the time, but you can tell it's really there.
[User Picture]From: [info]songmonk
2003-08-27 19:02 (UTC)

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Btw, for the "What wife *wouldn't* mind..." comment, I think Jessica was talking to Nick's publicist (who is female).
From: [info]saragon
2003-08-27 18:34 (UTC)

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p.s. so I'm gathering that this "Nick" is some kind of pop star/celebrity too? Man this marriage just sounds more doomed every day :-)
[User Picture]From: [info]songmonk
2003-08-27 19:05 (UTC)

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Actually, it should be more like:

Nick is some kind of "pop star" / "celebrity". :-)

He's Nick Lachay of the now-defunct boy band 98 Degrees. But I think he's better known as "Jessica's husband". :-)